Some kind of cooldown!) It isn't worth it for a game, but a lot of people want to do it anyways, and you have to do a lot of things unrelated to your main job, and you'll only get promoted if you appear happy about it. how am I supposed to push my rating when like 1 game out of 3 is against rank one player who are boosting someone (and most of the time, the boosted char is "piloted") . Consecrate causes more DPS for the mana but you want both. Ok. But as I grew to learn the Meta of BGs more, again, tempo is king. Keep it up. All your mages will probably be fire-specced. He throws AoE knockback fireballs at people with Mana. Commander Blackweb Once you start to get to 1k ap and 25% crit with a nice two hander you can actually do really good burst damage. The raid wipes if the holy paladins are oom, but it doesn't wipe if -you're- OOM; keep those raid-wide judgments on the current target. Form a 5-man group that does this Every Week. We also get a small defensive bonus with some defence rating or … Archived. This BIS list is getting modified. Discussion. You'll still need to do ZG for enchants and odd items. You'll have to dedicate a similar amount of hours to this as you would to being in the United States Military on in-country duty. PvP & PvE rankings, players rankings, best guilds, classes & race rankings, gear, gems, enchants, talents & builds stats Best Retribution Paladins rankings - World of Warcraft Last Database Update : 20 Dec 2019 Rank 12 and 13 pvp items, yeah, technically good. My own raid leader wiped us once on our "last" C'thun attempt; so we left, repaired, got world-buffs, came back, and downed him first try. Speaking of 'Live to Win', there is a youtube video with the world of warcraft logo on it; 'Live to Win looped for 10 hours'. This is pretty much the best paladin farm build. DO NOT STAND WITH THE MELEE on Ragnoros. A Serpent's Sting contributes more to DPS outside 5-man dungeons. Ignore Judgement of Wisdom for Phase 2, and just focus on pwning -- even your healers, priests and EVERYONE (except main-tank and main-healer if a Giant Spike Tentacle is still up) -- should be blowing all possible cooldowns and smashing C'thun's face when he turns purple. If you don't? I've done a lot of raiding. The WSG exalted pants are OP AF BiS the whole game. Ret is actually pretty solid in pvp, you just don’t have many great options for gear until aq40 if your raiding. Press J to jump to the feed. Illumination is the big PVE heal ability that paladins need, and divine favor is a big plus as well (guaranteed, mana free 4k+ heal!) Your entire job is to make raids simpler and less hectic, so people can pay attention to mechanics and maximize their DPS while surviving to add what you can. Many people think prot is better to grind with. But people say it's possible. BUY NEW MERCH: http://shop.esfand.tv/ Watch me live on Twitch! I'd recommend Dwarf for ease of World-PvP conversion; (Stoneform OP dude) since you won't be using a sword or mace for the majority of your raiding unless your guild lets you both GET a Sulfuras AND use it in raids. There was also a famous guild on Argent Dawn that had a ret paladin with Dark Edge of Insanity, who put out a pretty famous vid. 1. Holy is the best paladin spec hands down. Added information about why I am prioritizing Nightfall for paladin over a Hunter. If your mana is above half? Save both of these unless you are in a raid (not for solo PvP! YES! Ret can be fun and successful in classic pvp. This is also wrong. Sounds fun! The path of retribution is a painful one, above all else. The best set for Ret are the pvps sets so just pvp and get those sets. Statistically, you are not on the raid-gear prio-list for anything except for DPS Resist Gear and Nightfall. People think they can get their huge 2h mace and own everyone but as soon as they hit a healer they are completely fucked. This is documented to be the case in some effects including Malown's Slam not providing the +25 strength to the wielder when used on a raid mob. Show up to raid with Songflower (and Diremaul buffs after phase-2). You have mana. This guide isn't a fantasy/glory guide about high DPS. Also, if you truly think Nightfall is availble in p1, making arcanite reaper is even sillier as you would pretty soon after craft another weapon. [Edit: 'don't be an autist' not meaning the real-life condition known as autism. I'll help. Use Divine Shield so you're immune to the next "cast" of Burning Adrenaline and to reduce the (often overwhelming) damage-load on the healers early in the fight. Tank it/Kill it (even casters). Racial bonuses can provide interesting PvP benefits. You advocate a ret paladin playstyle, where you are a nightfall bot, who also spends his time and mana cleansing the raid of debuffs instead of maximizing dps. Everyone should use a major fire-protection pot, and wait two minutes for the next to be off cooldown, or near off-cooldown before this fight starts. If someone else's stupidity (including Baron Geddon) is about to get you killed, or people start screaming over Voice at someone else about some emergency, bubble. And it saves hundreds in consumables over time.). Don't miss. Phase 3) BWL gear; Your DPS will actually improve and you will out-gear the average player enough to kick their ass on your main in your PvE spec; but you will be hugely outpaced by casters in DPS. Use your stun on the giant eye tentacle (phase 2 only) whenever it's up. Link to post The races are sorted from highest impact in arena to lowest. Obvious double-standard is obvious.). A few tidbits about the gear, I could argue more about it, but it's a lot of personal preference and points where there certainly is contention. Spare people the trouble. User account menu. Every Week: Without exception. Retribution Paladin PvP Best Covenants, Soulbinds, Conduits, and Legendary Powers (Shadowlands / 9.0.2) Last updated on Nov 30, 2020 at 01:08 by Mysticall 15 comments On this page, you will find information about which Covenant you should be unlocking. Jwilson Whitemane NA- PVP Phase 2 , Week 3 Rank 6 (219k) honor farmed 10th place Hope you guys enjoy and thanks for watching. *I should add Holy Paladins are hands down THE best 1v1 class in the game. Phase 6) If you've stuck with the same guild, and they stuck by you all through Phase 5? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I GOT THE TAR AND FEATHERS RIGHT HERE!!!! You're also one of the best minor heal-snipers in the game because of Judgement of Light, and in some fights, your healing will actually be off the charts. But a dedicated PvE ret player who knows what they're doing is probably going to be the single most consistent and dedicated player in your guild and can actually bring quite a lot to the table. Kill what the melee is killing, and don't die. A miss can't Nightfall. Which sucks. My goal is to be a raiding ret. Just use it to avoid -potential- emergencies. Your choice. Save lives by saving a warlock. Pages in this Guide Your Engineering also shines in several fights (especially Vicidious), and you can make a lot of gold AND earn a lot of good will toward your raid for being an engineer and bringing enough sapper charges for other people (charge 3 - 5 gold each or whatever's fair for your materials -- bringing frost-oil for this fight to sell to lazy people is good here too). I'm not taking into the account healing is overall BETTER in PVP, I understand that but I am more curious about Ret. Share this post. Ossirians binding. Saving the raid mana helps with speed-running, and reduces tension in the guild that causes schisms and bad politics. MOM > Corrupted Ashbringer > Dark Edge of Insanity > Bone Reaver's Edge > Sulfuras/Ashkandi (equal) > Rank 14 Weapon > Untamed Blade > Spinal Reaper > TUF/Destroyer of Worlds > Arcanite Reaper > Ice Barbed Spear. The WSG exalted pants are OP AF BiS the whole game. Know that you're not Esfand. Demand the 2hers from your guild and you'll get them. You'll find more premade pvp groups at a holy paladin as well. Go ham. Gauntlets of the righteous champion. A lot. It is not worth the mana in most cases. What? ; On the Retribution Paladin PvP Rotation … Run to the AoE pile, bubble as you run through (to avoid being hit/mana-burned, as they may be frost-nova'd/rooted and attack anything in their melee reach) and drop a consecrate on them, but keep running through so you don't stay in melee. You'll probably wipe, but keep going even if it's hopeless to get more raid practice. You NEED a Nightfall as soon as it's feasible for your guild to craft one. You put on a Seal, auto-attack, sometimes Judgement, and then repeat until 60. Although he is a Paladin player, he can also play a Demon Hunter at tournament level. You can do this stuff ... or you can just roll a Fury Warrior or Holy Paladin and have gear casually handed to you for attendance. The life of a paladin is, unfortunately, a life of service. If you're enough of a wow-nut to do this, you definitely know the reference without me saying it. A lot. You can find him here: Twitch Armory Overview 9.0.2 Strong Compositions 9.0.2 Talents & Racials 9.0.2 Rotations & Strategy 9.0.2 Gear 9.0.2 Covenants 9.0.2 Macros & Addons 9.0.2 Archive Retribution Paladin PvP Gear Don't do it. Make sure you talk to your guild leader and class leader (might be melee lead, might be paladin depending on guild) about this indepth so everyone has an equal understanding of this. Many paladins go holy and than get ret gear while raiding. We legitimately don't know Blizzard's future plans after the 2 year run of Classic WoW. You need 20+ Dark Runes in your bag at all times. But putting the blue ones here is more realistic. Close. This'll help in keeping the whole raid topped off. Retribution Paladin PvP Talents and Builds (Shadowlands / 9.0.2) Last updated on Oct 14, 2020 at 21:18 by Mysticall 15 comments Choosing the right PvP and PvE talents is a prerequisite to proper performance in PvP. This will make you look 100-times more awesome when it happens. Sapper charges can be useful for your whole raid to have if your raid lands in the middle of an ambush at the flight-path: Make sure you bring yours. If you're passing a tentacle or one spawns under you? You need to have good social skills and not be an autist; but still be incredibly loyal and dedicated to assisting members of your guild; especially when they're farming dungeons and old content. You don’t make a Retribution Paladin, you make a Paladin that specializes into some Ret. Your life outside of raid will improve, and your farming will be easier. I would go Full Holy 31/20 or some kind of inbetween 31/X/X. :(. My recommendation? Is it just a time sink? This is a control and mana fight, not a DPS race. A miss sucks. Also why those alts and a recommendation not to farm? :). When your guild calls for a vulnerability phase (i.e. If you add that you have no issues getting loot after the regular melee dps you will have 0 problem finding a guild. You will actually out-DPS non-ret players who don't do this. If your guild is loot council and knows you’re a pvp pala and like Ret they should give you a two hander np, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. (Cleanse-trackers/logging addons, etc.). I don't get it, compared to Onslaught, you trade 31 str for 20 agi and 10 int. Those are nice on paper, but compared to annihilation, you lose 20 str and 1% hit for 16 spelldmg and 13 int. This is by far one of the easiest specs to PVP with and PVE with in the WHOLE GAME. Just Consecration Retribution Aura. Deciding on Gloves, Onslaught vs. Ossirian, and flame trinket. Its not super fun. Warriors dance around the enemy team applying mortal strikes and praying for crits. Good luck doing that and doing your best to farm gear outside of raids that early into release. Press J to jump to the feed. There you have it. share. You in MC Epics will not keep up with them in MC epics; but may be able to out-DPS the mages until they get talisman of ephermal power, and the hunters. Have an Attack Bar Timer; don't judge if it'll cause you to hit the boss before you re-activate a seal. Human needs 3%, dwarf needs 6%. It hurts the raid. You'll certainly lose more time levelling two chracters to 60 than you lsoe from farming a bit slower with your ret. I'm probably going Holy, because I want to enjoy my life and nostalgia. The grind has been known to make people suicidal. This is the standard Ret pvp spec. And you join the guild as holy, once you have made the friends you tell them it's your life long dream to play as ret. Even the ret paladin should be maintaining this position on tactical viability.). I think the first ashkandi should go to the holy paladin. ); exercise self-control. What's the point? The problems begin with you recommending dwarf, human is far superior due to the weapon skill. It'll hurt, a lot even if every other person on your server is actively encouraging you: And they won't be. Ranking, and Farming will be a nightmare from which there is no waking up. Not crazy burst but some survivability. You can raid as a Ret paladin son, but boy you're gonna have to suck a lot of dicks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBNFwCPDMDMn8FLc4GNocHONoIMQsJMogKNoULMyoMMQQNNo0OLicPNBwQMfASV4E, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBMWACR-QDMn8FLc4GSsEHONoIMQsJSsoKSscLMyoMSYUNNo0OLicPNBwQSuESV4E, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBMWACR-QDMn8FQFkGSsEHQFsIQFgJSsoKQFcLMyoMSYUNNo0OLicPNBwQSuESV4E, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBMWACR-QDS8IFQFkGSsEHQFsIS7sJSsoKQFcLS-gMS7gNNo0OLicPS-wQSuESWqM, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBMWACR-QDS8IFQFkGSsEHQFsIS7sJSsoKQFcLS-gMS7gNNo0OLicPS-wQSuESV4E, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBU4sCR-QDU48FU40GU9cHU44IU4wJVHIKVHcLQqcMUtUNVzEOS1kPVMUQSuESV4I, https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/paladin/human/ATwBU4sCR-QDU48FU40GWrMHU44IU4wJWZgKVHcLWf4MUtUNS84OS1kPWgUQSuESV4I, https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/paladin/550001-0532-05230151220315. Don't get mana-burned by or tank Sons of Rag. You probably need to be crazy/manic enough to google and -want- to listen to this while farming to be focused enough for this. The problem is, I want a list that's going to be good for all time; but also we don't know if they're ever going to re-release classic servers that go through the phases -again- or not. Note: As noted below in comments; librams aren't available till phase 5 ... but are left here, because of future content. That's too much for human and not enough for dwarf. ], A Divine Intervention macro. Judgement gear is pretty much OP to AoE Farm with. Do not wipe the raid three times before you figure out that you're the problem. You don't have an army of people behind you willing to support you as you experiment. Why? Standby; I am just re-looking at my itemization strategy. In all seriousness though, Paladin while leveling is a genuinely braindead class to play. This guy also suggests having 2 level 60 alts as Dire Maul releases. Phase 1) Your life will suck due to 300+ gold per raid consumables; assuming no wipes (and there will be wipes. This can be variable as specific fights, circumstances and guild officers dictate. Classic Retribution Paladin PvP Overview and Viability Paladins are incredibly durable and powerful healers in WoW Classic. Click the links below to navigate the guide or read this page for a short introduction. 0. If you can't kill them they will try and CC you to death because they can't kill you easily. A community for World of Warcraft: Classic fans. Ret is viable in PvP but be prepared to fill your support/healer role as ret. save. Like I'll heal in raids and dungeons I don't mind.. No self respecting man should ever kiss this much ass. If that's good enough for you, fine, but making a guide, saying that this is the ONLY way you can play ret in pve and every ret must go for this, is ludicrous. 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